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ihiryu
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Which is easier for you guys? Dodging missles or taking them down?
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RaZoR X
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

for me...

5 or less missiles i shoot them down.

more then 5 missiles i dodge. Twisted Evil

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ihiryu
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm still learning but I really can't tell whether I should shoot them down or dodge them....

I mean I don't even know when to shoot them, I try to dodge but they still hit me....

Any tips razor?
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ihiryu
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yeah i'm on mission six, and no matter what I do, seems like I can't lock onto the missles to shoot them down, or I can't seem to run away fast enough for them not to hit me....

Grr tips anyone??
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RaZoR X
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

this is probably the best advice i can give you...

everyone has a different style to dodge missiles but the most important thing is to use your HUD.

missiles will have a round circle around them . when 5 or less missiles are fired at you , you can shoot them down ( gun must be set on missile track) .

any more than 5 missiles and its time to dodge!!

the best way to do that is keep those circles on your hud behind you .

when a missile is close the circle will get big and you will hear a warning tone use your after burner in burst and go the opposite direction of the missile .

keep using the after burner in short burst to dodge the opposite direction of incoming missiles .

here are some videos by Torime from Japan he is one of the original ruff necks of Macross VOXP study his style and you will understand how he dodges missiles.

http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~torime/ss/mv0801_e.html

just remember don't forget your offense! if you spend too much time dodging missiles you will never get to fire missiles at your enemy.

thats one of the cool things about this game you must have a balance of offense and defense to be a successful ACE.

oh and practice makes perfect!

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RaZoR X
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yes! mission 6 can be a pain !!!!

heres how i did it...
I did it by getting to my SDF as fast as possible switching to a VT-1 then stay close to SDF and take out as many enemy fighters as possible .

you must stay as close to the SDF as possible, Destroy all the enemy once all the enemyfighters are destroyed return to SDF and rearm with NUKES to Destry the enemy mother ships.

hope this works for you. Smile

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ihiryu
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ok so the circles that are red represents missiles correct? Now to shoot them down, I just put my crosshair on them and fire right? For some reason I can't seem to shoot them down. I've been practicing shooting them down, but I can't get it, and I try to dodge and they somehow still seem to hit me. I'm trying though!!

Thanks for the help so far Razor....I've been trying to get in on some online battles but the rooms on hamachi seem full, trying to witness first hand so I can get a better idea of how to dodge and shoot down missiles....

I might be needing some more help from you guys still.
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torime
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi ihiryu

These movies are helpful for dodging missles.

http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~torime/ss/mvsa_e.html

http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~torime/ss/mv0709_e.html
vs lay-g September 1, 2007

I think that close throttle and turn nose, most missiles pass and come off.

It is seems that missile starts calculation of detonation when it approaches the target up to a some distance.
That distance seems to be proportional to the target throttle position.

Missile might not detonate near than 0.5 when throttle is minimum,
missile might detonate far than 1.0 when throttle is maximum.
Missile might detonate far than 1.5 when throttle is maximum and use afterburner.

If you control throttle quickly and accuracy, you can avoid all most missiles.
But enemy sometimes becomes predominant over you when you do it, because you lost velocity
and your next behavior is behind schedule for time when you were closing throttle.

How does the missile hit the target in all most missiles' being avoided?

There is one important thing.

Missile don't lost when it was avoided.
Missile return and chase the target again.

You can attack the target from both sides with returned missile.
Therefore, various strategies can be done.
For instance, the attention of the target is averted from the returned missile by made decoy yourself,
or the target is driven in to the returned missile by your attack.

It is necessary to act forecasting two steps and three steps of the action of
the targets, yourself, your missiles, other's missiles.

It is like chess that uses the units which are named the missile.


If you want to shoot down missiles, you don't operate control stick.
Transform Battloid and push a gunpod's trigger, your vehicle automatically aiming
and shoot down missiles.
If you operate stick, aiming action is refused.
It takes time of several seconds to shoot down a missile,
enemy shoot you many many missiles several seconds.


Mission 6, that movie is helpful for your play.

http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~torime/ss/cam2_e.html
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ihiryu
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

、私それをのそれに一見を実際に容易にさせられるあなたのビデオ試みなければならないありがとう!

I think that's right anyway, I haven't taken japanese since college...so it's been a long time
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